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[Gitarooman]

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480p, 720p and 1080i on all games.

[CHEN]

Gitarooman, on Aug 1 2006, 03:38 AM, said:

http://ps3.qj.net/Ho...pg/49/aid/60346


http://ps3.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/...tif_jpgcopy.jpg

480p, 720p and 1080i on all games.

Wow, looks like interesting! :)
But when does it come to the market? how much? and where can we buy this?

somewhat i think, this Xploder software comes a little late.
if it comes to market last year, than i Certain will buy it.
d2_s possibly has interesting into this.

[spoonTRex]

I'd really love to see more about this product, because I'd love to understand how it actually works without taking any extra power from the PS2 to produce these resolutions.

(I mean, imagine Shadow of the Collossus in 3 fps thanks to this software!) ;)

[Gitarooman]

probably just up scaling like GT4. Then we can take off the PS2 list from this site lol.

This post has been edited by Gitarooman: 31 July 2006 - 03:27 PM

[Techni Myoko]

Apparently it's a gameshark/action replay type disc (which don't work on the slim ps2s) which just tells the PS2 to render in hi res modes (or upscale). I beleive it'll cause severe framerate drops

[LeadBetter]

I've been holding off playing a lot of the good ps2 games for the past couple years in anticipation of the bump the ps3 would give them (I figured it might save me some disappointment with limited launch titles). If this product is the price of a game or less, and it delivers what it says it will, I will probably get it and hold off on the ps3 for as long as I can.

[Hexpane]

interesting potential, EURO PAL PS2 only? Compatible w/ HDD loader? :dntknw:

[Archetype]

Techni Myoko, on Jul 31 2006, 02:07 PM, said:

Apparently it's a gameshark/action replay type disc (which don't work on the slim ps2s) which just tells the PS2 to render in hi res modes (or upscale). I beleive it'll cause severe framerate drops

I have an Action Replay/Gameshark disc that works fine on my Slimline. Didn't at first, but it does now mysteriously.

[spoonTRex]

Hexpane, on Jul 31 2006, 04:57 PM, said:

EURO PAL PS2 only?

How'd you figure that?

Hexpane, on Jul 31 2006, 04:57 PM, said:

Compatible w/ HDD loader?

Highly doubt it. HDD Loader couldn't load Action Replay and then a game, it'd only work if someone were to incorporate what this was doing into HDD Loader itself.

I'd love to see some screens of this software in action.

[Archetype]

spoonTRex, on Jul 31 2006, 08:49 PM, said:

I'd love to see some screens of this software in action.

That'd definitely be helpful.

[S31Ender]

Archetype, on Jul 31 2006, 11:56 PM, said:

spoonTRex, on Jul 31 2006, 08:49 PM, said:

I'd love to see some screens of this software in action.

That'd definitely be helpful.

Bah, who cares?
This vs a true HD game made from scratch to BE a HD game is the same as HD-DVD vs Upscaling a 480 dvd.
If your source is crap, you can't do much with it.

[spoonTRex]

S31Ender, on Jul 31 2006, 11:48 PM, said:

Bah, who cares?
This vs a true HD game made from scratch to BE a HD game is the same as HD-DVD vs Upscaling a 480 dvd.
If your source is crap, you can't do much with it.

Which is funny that you say this because I've been reading heaps that most people don't percieve much of a difference between the two. (I personally find this hard to believe, but--well--I've never seen seen an upscaled DVD nor an HD-DVD to compare with.) :dntknw:

[Bambino]

spoonTRex, on Aug 1 2006, 04:10 AM, said:

Which is funny that you say this because I've been reading heaps that most people don't percieve much of a difference between the two.

most people obviously have degenerative eye diseases

[Hexpane]

spoonTRex, on Jul 31 2006, 08:49 PM, said:

Hexpane, on Jul 31 2006, 04:57 PM, said:

EURO PAL PS2 only?

How'd you figure that?

Hexpane, on Jul 31 2006, 04:57 PM, said:

Compatible w/ HDD loader?

Highly doubt it. HDD Loader couldn't load Action Replay and then a game, it'd only work if someone were to incorporate what this was doing into HDD Loader itself.

I'd love to see some screens of this software in action.

Xploder is a UK/EUR w/o a USA publisher product I think?

It says it installs on the memory card, since I own a PS2 fat and slim, I load all my games on the PS2 fat to play for faster load times, if compat. Any games that dont work and all PS1 games I run off my PS2slim...

I hate going back to long load times, and I love the HDD player because it saves wear and tear on my disc drive. ALready been through 3 PS2s ( 2 died DRE 1 was stolen)

[CHEN]

IGN LATEST REPORT:
http://gear.ign.com/...3/723551p1.html
Xploder PS2 HDTV Player Update
European launch and price announced, technical FAQ.
by Gerry Block

August 4, 2006 - Xploder's recent announcement of a software solution
that allows the PlayStation 2 to output High-Def resolutions,
including 720p and 1080i, has stirred a great deal of interest and
questions on the internet. The company released an update today,
announcing European release dates and an FAQ on how the company has
coaxed the PS2 to output massively higher resolutions than was
previously possible.

According to the new release, the Xploder HDTV Game Player and HDTV
Movie Player, previously announced as separate products, will now be
combined into a single software package that shall be known as the
HDTV Player for PS2. The product is currently scheduled for launch in
the UK on September 1st with a suggested retail price of 29.99
Pounds, or 49.99 Euro.

Xploder's previous press releases did not reveal a great deal of
information as to how the company's software achieved its up-scaling
promises, and today's release answers a few of the more pressing
questions, yet remains somewhat unspecific. The real test, it seems,
will have to wait until the product is finally in reviews' hands.

The FAQ, as it appeared in today's release, follows:

What is Xploder? And who are Fire International Ltd.?

Fire International (Fire) develops, manufactures and supplies
worldwide a comprehensive range of console and PC based media
management and video game enhancement utilities under the Xploder
brand-name.

Fire's Xploder technology powers the GameShark brand for Mad Catz in
the US, Xterminator for Gametech in Japan and the Xploder software
that is bundled with the Lexar Gaming Edition PSP Memory Stick Duo,
amongst others.

Proprietary products include: Xploder Movie Player and Music Studio
for PSP, Xploder Media Centre for XBOX 360, Xploder Media Centre for
PS2, Xploder Cheat Saves for Nintendo DS and Xploder Media Centre for
iPod, and more…

As an MPEG4/AAC licensee, Fire provide advanced media conversion of
video and music for use on PSP, Xbox 360, PS2, DS, Mobile Handsets
and iPod as a single access point.

Is the HDTV Player changing the code within games so that they
display in HD?

No, the Xploder HDTV Player does not change the code within games. It
enables progressive scan, so instead of outputting odd/even fields it
outputs 448/512 lines to the CRT output.

Does the HDTV player use additional hardware?

The Xploder HDTV Player does not use any additional hardware in
converting the signal; it is purely a software product. The disc does
comes bundled with a PS2 component cable for the HDTV output, and a
VGA Adaptor cable is available separately for those who wish to use a
VGA connection.

Does using the software slow games down?

Games render at their native resolution - therefore Xploder HDTV
Player does not take-up any additional processing power.

The PS2 hardware isn't capable of outputting 720p and 1080i

Contrary to popular belief, the PlayStation 2 can output 480p, 720p,
1080i modes via a Component cable. In addition the PS2 supports the
following VESA modes (via VGA adaptor):

640 x 480 (60,72, 75, 85hz)
800 x 600 (56, 60, 72, 75,85hz)
1024 x 768 (60, 70, 75, 85hz)
1280 x 1024 (60, 75hz)

Will games suffer from stretching and distortion?

The 480p mode is recommended for optimum performance on most PS2
games. Some games may experience distortion in the higher resolution
modes.

Doesn't my HDTV already up-convert lower resolution signals to High
Definition, regardless of the source?

Displaying interlaced video on progressive displays (LCD, Plasma)
results in motion artefacts called "combing", the Xploder HDTV avoids
this by sending video frames in progressive mode (where possible).

Do the games have to be formatted in HD?

No, the games do not have to be formatted in HD to be used with the
Xploder HDTV Player.

You can't increase the quality of the source.

Progressive mode sends twice the number of lines per frame (game
permitting), so the resolution is increased vertically (interlaces
games need 2 screen updates, or twice the amount of time to send the
same video data).

There has been a lot of reference to up-converting/up-scaling and de-
interlacing. Which of these best describes the HDTV Player?

Progressive mode and up-scaling best describe the method used by the
Xploder HDTV Player.

Does the device interpolate (or add pixels).

The Xploder HDTV Player does not interpolate. It works by enabling
progressive scan output, so instead of sending half the lines per
frame it sends all of them. This has noticeable improvements in
movement, especially on HDTV sets; artefacts such as combing are no
long present. The software does not create extra lines (or
interpolate).

Will this work with all PS2 games?

We have already successfully tested Xploder HDTV Player with hundreds
of games, however there may ultimately be a small number of games
that the Xploder HDTV is not compatible with due to circumstances
outside of our control. Our comprehensive testing programme will
continue as new games are released.

How does the Enhanced DVD player for PS2 work?

Like the Games Player, it works by enabling progressive scan output,
so instead of sending half the lines per frame it sends all of them.
This has noticeable improvements in movement, especially on HDTV
sets; artefacts such as combing are no long present. The software
does not create extra lines (or interpolate).

Can I play DVDs in 720p and 1080i?

Yes, DVD movies can be played in 720p or 1080i modes. However for
optimum playback on most TVs 480p mode is recommended.

Is there a loss in image quality on DVD playback?

No, there is no loss in image quality on DVD playback, in fact
playback is visibly more crisp and significantly enhanced.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

This Xploder looks like a amazing software. :winkgrin:

[MrEastSide]

I say who cares? After playing my XBox and XBox 360 for how long, playing most of the PS2's visually inferior games doesn't really appeal to me. If I want to play them that bad, I can live with them being in 480p or even i for that matter. It's not worth the hassle to me of buying an additional thing and tinkering around with it to try and make it work properly, just to get a slight visual improvement over already dated PS2 games. :dntknw:

[Phredreeke]

I want this! I need a progressive scan capable tv first though <.< lol

[d2_s]

It sounds ok in principal ... but if the PS3 at launch uses the display hardware (note not the gpu) to do upscaling then it basically makes my investment in this device not worth it anyway.

[Hexpane]

d2_s, on Aug 8 2006, 04:11 PM, said:

It sounds ok in principal ... but if the PS3 at launch uses the display hardware (note not the gpu) to do upscaling then it basically makes my investment in this device not worth it anyway.

Has Sony even confirmed that the PS2/PS1 games will be upscaled?

I find it interesting that this FAQ response essentially avoids the 720p/1080i topic and focusses heavily on 480p, even after stating that the PS2 can output 720p+

Depending on user tests this could be a must have, there are definitely a good number of 480i games that would really benefit w/ at least 480p

[d2_s]

They have confirmed tha the firts batch of PS2's will include the PS2 hardware to enable BC ... whether it will be upscaled is still under question but a simple upsclae would be a piece of cake as it can be done in the display hardware with no effort.

Sony also said that they would be simultaneously working on a software emulation solution akin to xbox360's that would allow games to actually natively render in HD resolutions again like the 360 ... how long that take and whether they'll do it are yet to be seen. But they mentioned it would be used inplace of the PS2 hardware when they considered it good enough.