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@  Goldenheart : (12 September 2017 - 06:30 PM) So... interesting thing happened. We got a new apartment, looked up the local internet providers, dialed Comcast's phone number, and got a message saying the call couldn't be completed as dialed. My wife tried the # on her phone. Same message. We're thinking it's very odd such a big company can't get its own phone number right. We call a 3rd time using an app that acts like a phone. Got right through. It seems AT&T doesn't like its customers dialing Comcast.  :crazy:
@  Brandino : (13 September 2017 - 12:14 AM) I'm finding Destiny 2 as more of an expansion then a true sequel.  It's fun and they fixed a lot of mistakes from the first.
@  SpaceInsomniac : (13 September 2017 - 10:11 AM) Glad to hear Destiny on PS4 is now working for you d2.  You should join LeadBetter and me sometime.
@  SpaceInsomniac : (13 September 2017 - 02:24 PM) And I'm guessing you already have a clan in mind for PS4 Destiny, but if not, you're welcome to join ours.  So far it's myself, LeadBetter, and a group of people that I played a lot of Titanfall 2 with.
@  d2_s : (14 September 2017 - 04:34 PM) @Space cheers. I'm with the same clan I was in the original Destiny. We should play, I wouldn't mind doing the nightfall and rat king quest with you guys if you haven't done them already. Haven't had a chance  to play much this week, but should be ok this weekend.
@  d2_s : (14 September 2017 - 04:35 PM) Happy to raid with you guys too if condtions permit.
@  Goldenheart : (16 September 2017 - 09:16 PM) So... odd thing happened. We got a new apartment in Philly. I tried to call Comcast to ask about their internet & got a message that my call couldn't be completed as dialed. My wife tried & got the same message. I thought it odd such a big company couldn't get their own ph# right. Then, we dialed using an app that acted like a phone. We got right through. Seems AT&T doesn't like their customers dialing comcast.
@  Goldenheart : (16 September 2017 - 09:17 PM) & then I tried calling to end internet service at the old house & the computer hung up on me! A week later, I made it back to the old house & found the modem dead! No lights, nothing.
@  Goldenheart : (16 September 2017 - 09:17 PM) old house has AT&T internet & AT&T modem.
@  KaliniuS : (17 September 2017 - 04:14 PM) It's time for my semi-annual check-in at HDTV Arcade lol
@  KaliniuS : (17 September 2017 - 04:17 PM) I've been helping beta test the Steam version of Killer Instinct lately. Speaking of KI, I'm actually going to a tournament on September 30th here in Raleigh, NC. It's called "The Fall Classic." Wish me luck!
@  ermac666 : (20 September 2017 - 06:00 AM) Speaking of fighting games, marvel vs capcom: infinite is out for ps4/pro, XB1 and PC. It plays great with more modes than SFV at launch. I am still getting used to the gem system.
@  ermac666 : (20 September 2017 - 06:02 AM) The only downside is that future dlc characters are behind a pay wall, and there are no x-men characters as 20th century fox now owns the x-men licence from what I understand.
@  TonyDP : (25 September 2017 - 07:43 PM) Marvel has really marginalized the X-Man, and Fantastic Four as well, pretty much removing them from the larger universe, most likely as part of some long game to reclaim those IPs from Fox, who owns them basically in perpetuity as long as they make a movie every few years.
@  Goldenheart : (25 September 2017 - 09:57 PM) Good luck Kal! Kick some Killer butt!
@  Brandino : (30 September 2017 - 12:03 AM) Destiny 2 is fun .... but man it's so easy to get the good loot
@  ermac666 : (02 October 2017 - 09:02 AM) Nioh is coming to steam on nov 7. It was a PS4 exclusive and one of my fave games this gen.
@  d2_s : (02 October 2017 - 04:10 PM) Somy is releasing an updated PSVR headset with improved processing unit and HDR pass-through. Unfortunately, no HDR pass-through solution for early adopters and the new processing box is no compatible with the original PSVR unit. A dick move if you ask me. I'd use my PSVR alot more if it wasn for this.
@  Brandino : (17 October 2017 - 02:27 AM) Just wanted to post that I'm still alive lol...
@  Goldenheart : (21 October 2017 - 01:36 PM) sorry for the double post earlier. Didn't realize it.

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#1 d2_s

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 06:38 PM

http://www.eurogamer...for-2017-report

Like we didn't know this was happening. It's not like Sony were working on Neo in a vacuum.

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Posted 27 May 2016 - 07:27 AM

So if the rumors are to be believed, the PS4.5 will be out long before the holidays, while the Xbox One and a half won't be out until next year, but it'll be more powerful.

It's crazy to see this all happening again so soon, when the last generation took forever to end.  The really stupid thing is, if the new Xbox is really going to be that much more powerful, I might be actually tempted to stick with my original PS4 and get the new Xbox so I could have both.

Two problems with that idea, though.  

1) Sony and Microsoft each running competing paid online services means that simply buying the console isn't the only investment required.

2) I still haven't forgiven Microsoft for their planned DRM BS, and shoving Kinect down everyone's throats, even though they never made any games for Kinect that made it seem even even slightly worth owning.
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Posted 27 May 2016 - 08:18 AM

I will be shocked if these hypothetical consoles won't be backwardly compatible with the current XB1/PS4. As long as that's the case, I'll have no qualms trading my current consoles in and getting their new replacements when they're released; I'm sure the cost I'll end up incurring for both will still be less than a high end PC.

As for MS, I think they've long since learned their lesson from their botched XB1 reveal; it will be a long long time before we see another Kinect or ultra-restrictive DRM strategy from them; they're woefully behind in terms of sales this generation and they simply cannot afford those types of antics anymore from a business standpoint. Even their Hololens augmented reality headset has quietly faded away.

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Posted 27 May 2016 - 08:18 PM

New scorpio xbox seems to be a bigger jump. It's almost like a new gen console than sony's incremental upgrade. Heard that it has 6 teraflops of power compared to the neo's 4 teraflops. Sony is making sure that the experience on the original ps4 is not compromised. I wonder what MS is going to do with their original XO.

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Posted 28 May 2016 - 04:36 AM

I am certain that the Scorpio will be uncompromised in terms of back compatibility. That is pretty much the whole point of the move to windows 10 on xb1 a hardware independant platform etc etc etc Bravo if the hardware is that much of a bump.

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Posted 29 May 2016 - 11:30 AM

View PostSpaceInsomniac, on 27 May 2016 - 07:27 AM, said:

So if the rumors are to be believed, the PS4.5 will be out long before the holidays, while the Xbox One and a half won't be out until next year, but it'll be more powerful.

It's crazy to see this all happening again so soon, when the last generation took forever to end.  The really stupid thing is, if the new Xbox is really going to be that much more powerful, I might be actually tempted to stick with my original PS4 and get the new Xbox so I could have both.

Two problems with that idea, though.  

1) Sony and Microsoft each running competing paid online services means that simply buying the console isn't the only investment required.

2) I still haven't forgiven Microsoft for their planned DRM BS, and shoving Kinect down everyone's throats, even though they never made any games for Kinect that made it seem even even slightly worth owning.
While d2 has a good point with MS probably learning their lesson with the XB1, MS had to go and piss on its customers again with the immense spyware in Windows 10.

On top of that, somehow it just worked out that the newer PC cpu's won't be "compatible" with Windows updates unless they're running Windows 10. So the message I'm hearing from MS is "Let us spy on you with Windows 10 or we don't want anything to do with you." So my next upgrade will be a gaming PC with a non-cutting edge cpu, Win7, and I'll be able to use my 360 controller instead of the more chintsy/cheap feeling X1 controller.  Plus, it'll have a myriad of other uses. Modern consoles have all the limitations of consoles and most of the headaches of PC's anyway. (To me, the benefit of the simplicity just isn't worth the cost of installs and patches and supporting MS more than I have to. I respect Sony, but just don't like their controller at all, & they still have installs & massive patches.)

Yes, you can supposedly turn off the spyware, but Cortana still sends data back to MS servers even after she's turned "off". Last I read, (a while ago,) hackers had discovered she still sends data, and it goes to MS servers, but they weren't able to tell what that data was exactly.
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Posted 29 May 2016 - 12:40 PM

Man. When did I get so negative? I feel like such a drag around here. It seems there's so much wrong with games and game companies these days. For every really cool thing, like Destiny or Halo MCC, there's some major negative to drain the fun out. (Online required and no story, or only half the game in the box & buggy multiplayer.) I wish I could be more optimistic. I am really looking forward to a new gaming pc, but that'll likely be at the end of the year.

As negative as I tend to be, it was nice to see rational heads here on this topic of upgraded consoles. Every other place I see this discussion online, everyone's complaining about how it will split the user base. Even pc gamers who know of the long existence of in-game settings to accommodate different hardware specs seem to forget about that & bemoan "how will this ever work???" I'm sure the newer versions will be 100% compatible with the originals. Heck, it'd even be awesome if they could also include manual settings for "60fps or 30fps & looking prettier" to give console gamers more choice.
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Posted 30 May 2016 - 04:58 AM

Speaking of installs, it's the xbox one that seem to have longer installs than the ps4 this gen. Patches seem about equal. PS4's controller is actually pretty damn good. They really stepped it up in that area because the ps3 controller wasn't too good. I was initially not too keen on the upgraded consoles, but have grown to accept it. Now I am excited to see how it pans out.

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Posted 30 May 2016 - 08:30 AM

View Postermac666, on 30 May 2016 - 04:58 AM, said:

Speaking of installs, it's the xbox one that seem to have longer installs than the ps4 this gen. Patches seem about equal. PS4's controller is actually pretty damn good. They really stepped it up in that area because the ps3 controller wasn't too good. I was initially not too keen on the upgraded consoles, but have grown to accept it. Now I am excited to see how it pans out.

It is amazing to me how much faster disc based installs are on the PS4 relative to the Xbox 1. A 30GB PS4 game will install in a matter of seconds on my console; that same size game will take over an hour on the Xbox One. MS must have used some really mediocre drives in their consoles.


The PS4 controller is definitely better but I still prefer the offset stick layout and when playing for extended sessions. I find that after an hour of playing something like Doom 4 on my PS4, my thumbs start to hurt because of their position; the Xbox One's stick layout feels more natural to me and I can play for hours without discomfort. There is a device that allows for cross platform controller use. I've never used it but I've read posts from people on Reddit that swear by it:

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Posted 03 June 2016 - 01:24 PM

My hope is that MS really goes all in with their Windows 10/UWP. I'm hoping that my PC can be the "upgraded Xbox" that they are talking about here. Release all your games to the Xbox Store as well and I'll buy them. The only game I've bought for my Xbox One I think is Halo MCC and I've barely played it.

I'd be surprised at that 6 teraflops number, that puts it into GTX 1070 territory, which I suppose a year and a half from now could be possible. Seems like it would have to be kind of expensive though.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 01:56 AM

Though you and I both know it wont really be in the same league as say an i7 coupled with a 1070, it is still fairly impressive for a console. I wonder what price-point they'll be shooting for? Seeing as they have the slim, they certainly can give it a "premium" price.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 01:59 AM

Now that it is official that scorpio will be 6TF, I wonder if sony is going to tweak their neo to match it, or just release it at the rumored 4.4TF.

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 12:31 AM

I did see something about a Sony person "laughing" at the rumored Neo specs. Who knows what it will end up at for sure, just have to wait for specs I guess.

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 02:57 AM

View Postkyle_5_16, on 28 June 2016 - 12:31 AM, said:

I did see something about a Sony person "laughing" at the rumored Neo specs. Who knows what it will end up at for sure, just have to wait for specs I guess.

Interesting. It would seem odd that Sony would just let MS beat their specs by such a wide margin. Be interesting to see what both machines end up being :)

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Posted 28 June 2016 - 07:52 AM

View Postd2_s, on 28 June 2016 - 02:57 AM, said:

View Postkyle_5_16, on 28 June 2016 - 12:31 AM, said:

I did see something about a Sony person "laughing" at the rumored Neo specs. Who knows what it will end up at for sure, just have to wait for specs I guess.

Interesting. It would seem odd that Sony would just let MS beat their specs by such a wide margin. Be interesting to see what both machines end up being :)
Maybe he's laughing because Sony "leaked" some misinformation to throw MS off, and hearing that misinformation being treated as fact makes him smile that the plan is working so well. It would make sense that they keep their mouths shut about the real specs until Scorpio is too close to being shipped for MS to do diddley-squat when they hear "the real" PS4.5 specs and are caught off guard.

IF that's actually the case: Well played, Sony. Well played. :slow clap:
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Posted 28 June 2016 - 10:01 AM

This got me thinking about the early specs leak of the original ps4 and XO. PS4 "Orbis" was rumored to have 4 GB of GDDR5 RAM while XO "Durango" was 8 GB of DDR3 RAM. When sony unveiled the ps4 at their event, and it ended up having 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM, everyone lost their minds, lol. You guys may be right...

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 08:39 PM

I think people get too hung up on hardware specs. I don't necessarily need the most powerful PC or console, just one that is powerful enough to give me a satisfactory experience. Sony may have something more powerful waiting in the wings; that kind of one-upmanship  is inevitable. But as long as the MS console is powerful enough to deliver a compelling audio visual experience that's all I could ask for.

It will also be interesting to see how Nintendo responds (if they are even capable of it) to this escalating hardware war.

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Posted 29 June 2016 - 10:15 PM

I think it's safe to say that the Scorpio will more than be able to deliver a satisfactory experience. Even the humble bone was able to genuinely impress me at times with titles like Rise of the Tomb Raider.

I'd say even if the Neo stuck around the 4TF mark it would still be a marked improvement over what we have now :)

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Posted 05 July 2016 - 01:25 AM

It seems the price of the normal Xbox ones have dropped at least $20. As low as $280 now, $300 for the 1TB version. Both come with a game.
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 04:23 AM

I decided to drop the cash for an xbox one x. I figured if I'm going go have an xbox one, I may as well have the flagship machine.
It will go nicely with my Switch - the other console I said I'd never buy.




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