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@  d2_s : (13 January 2018 - 04:41 AM) Belated Happy New Year HDTVArcaders!
@  d2_s : (13 January 2018 - 04:48 AM) @B Whether the Switch! is worth it depends on how into Portable gaming you are and how important Nintendo’s IPs are to you IMHO. As novel as it is to have games like Doom or Skyrim on a handheld device, for someone like me-who rarely plays portable-it’s not worth it when those games are better on other platforms. I’d personally wait until the library is more fleshed out and you can get a better price. Only reason I got mine somearly was for Zedla.
@  ermac666 : (27 January 2018 - 11:33 PM) Shadow of the  Colossus remake looks stunning. It's like a brand new game! Just saw the digital foundry ps4 pro first look. I was like, "wow!!!!!". I wasn't expecting it to look that good and different.
@  ermac666 : (27 January 2018 - 11:33 PM) Go check it out guys
@  Brandino : (29 January 2018 - 12:19 AM) What would be awesome is a sequel to SOC... complete with levels and a whole lot more then only the big boss fights.
@  kyle_5_16 : (29 January 2018 - 03:23 PM) that does look pretty legit
@  kyle_5_16 : (29 January 2018 - 03:24 PM) Has anyone been playing the Sea of Thieves beta?
@  TonyDP : (29 January 2018 - 05:36 PM) I've been playing Sea of Thieves. It's fun and shows promise but I think they need more for the final product. I've done a few solo adventures but the game is most fun with 4 players.
@  kyle_5_16 : (29 January 2018 - 05:52 PM) Yeah, I played a couple hours duo with my brother, then another 4-6 as a full 4 man team. The full crew is more fun for sure. I agree the beta is light on content, a lot of just go dig up a chest quests so far, they need a lot more than that for the final game but my fingers are crossed. I'm also hoping for some sort of missions that would require cooperation with other crews, like having to go take down an NPC ship that is difficult alone or something. I dunno, I guess we'll see. So far the other crews have just been either attacking on site or running away, a reason to cooperate would be cool.
@  colonel_j2020 : (29 January 2018 - 06:26 PM) I too have played some of sea of theives beta.  For some reason I can't connect to a group game. No error messages or windows firewall stuff pops up.  I think it would be good with a group of friends though.  I feel they will need to add more content as Tony and Kyle suggested to keep it fresh.
@  d2_s : (30 January 2018 - 07:07 AM) The best thung about Sea of Thieves (all all MS 1st party games for that matter) is that I get it day one with my Gamepass subscription. Don’t think I would have bought it otherwise, seems a but niche to me.
@  d2_s : (30 January 2018 - 07:08 AM) Fat thumbs + iPad once again make me look like an illiterate bastard.
@  TonyDP : (30 January 2018 - 08:06 AM) I'm debating cancelling my pre-order and going the Gamepass route as well. Not wild about another monthly subscription but if I just get 2 or 3 games a year it will pretty much pay for itself.
@  Brandino : (30 January 2018 - 08:17 PM) I would think that randomly generated islands/caves/castles or whatever in Sea Of Thieves would make the game much more enticing.   I can't imagine sailing and merely attacking a few skeletons as fun.  The sailing around in Wind Waker was the worst part of that game... the interesting islands is what made it fun.
@  TonyDP : (31 January 2018 - 06:01 PM) The sailing mechanics are well done. You need to use the map and compass to figure out where to go and manage the length and direction of the sails; I found it one of the coolest parts of the beta quite honestly.
@  d2_s : (02 February 2018 - 03:39 AM) @Tony I did just that. Cancelled my preorder and went the gamepass route.
@  kyle_5_16 : (05 February 2018 - 05:14 PM) considering all first party titles are going gamepass now I think that makes it a pretty decent deal for sure.
@  colonel_j2020 : (09 February 2018 - 08:24 PM) I have a feeling I will use gamepass to play Sea of Thieves.  Paying for that for a month seems a good way to play games like that.
@  Brandino : (17 February 2018 - 02:34 AM) I bought a Switch.... very slick piece of hardware and easy to bring to work to play multiplayer mario kart
@  d2_s : (17 February 2018 - 11:54 PM) The switch is awesome. I just need Nintendo to port over all my favourite WiiU games so I can be rid of it.

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#1 Brandino

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 06:37 PM

I checked out the preview trailer today and I'm surprised that I'm saying this....  I am actually excited and interested in purchasing a new Nintendo console!@?!?

I remember ripping the Wii and it's name back in the day on these boards and then completely ignoring the Wii-U.

I like the idea of being able to bring the console with me to work and playing with my co workers during lunch  and/or being able to play on the go when I'm stuck going to boring kids activities.  

I am very curious about the price,  the battery life and if this console will be super awesome and include a browser and other features...
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Posted 20 October 2016 - 08:01 PM

I have zero interest in mobile games. I have even less interest in Nintendo's IPs. The video does not get into the power of the console but if the guts of it are in the tablet section that can be removed then I can't imagine it will be even as powerful as an Xbox One / PS4, to say nothing of the PS4 Pro or Scorpio (it will probably be more along the lines of a Nvidia Shield). Going back to cartridges for game storage and no mention of how much onboard storage it has suggests that games with massive add-ons like Destiny or the Call of Duty titles will be beyond the scope of the device. And of course the games look typically childish and kiddy. Kind of interesting that Nintendo has finally ditched all the gimmicky controllers and gone back to what is essentially a standard gamepad.

Bottom line: Interesting modular design but just not for me given how I play or the titles I have interest in.

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 02:09 AM

My first thought was "Yeah, those slide-on controllers won't be breaking off anytime soon."

Either Nintendo will have a rule of no hard games, (to limit frustration,) or it's part of their grand scheme to help parents raise well behaved kids that don't rage. Cuz if they do rage, they punish themselves by taking their own controller away, in a manner of speaking, when they break them in two. :-P
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Posted 21 October 2016 - 02:30 AM

Interesting video and concept. At least they are marketing it right unlike what they did with the wii u that confused a lot of people who are casual. I can see it selling, but there are many things that are not very clear. Is it cartridge only (no online purchases of games) and how is the storage capacity? Any touch screen controls? Will it run current ports from ps4/X1? How will be the battery life be if you use it outside of your home? Pro switch controller included in the package?

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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:12 PM

I am concerned they show nothing of the specs.  I'm also concerned that games will be gimped needing to be able to be played on the tablet and a TV.
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Posted 22 October 2016 - 04:14 AM

I love Nintendo's IPs and really enjoyed the excellent exclusives on the Wii U. What I don't love is how unfriendly to 3rd parties Nintendo's platforms tend to be and as cool as this new contraption looks, I'm not sure I'm up for the extra clutter just for a slow trickle of Nintendo exclusives. I sold my Wii U to my brother-in-law and I've found PS4, PC and X1 more than meet my needs - despite occassionally missing Mario Kart and Splatoon. I'm even considering losing xbox in the long term seeing as I can play their games and use their controller on PC. Nintendo is going to have to blow my socks to get me back to buying their consoles again. Either that or it's going to have to be dirt cheap.

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 12:35 PM

View Postd2_s, on 22 October 2016 - 04:14 AM, said:

I love Nintendo's IPs and really enjoyed the excellent exclusives on the Wii U. What I don't love is how unfriendly to 3rd parties Nintendo's platforms tend to be and as cool as this new contraption looks, I'm not sure I'm up for the extra clutter just for a slow trickle of Nintendo exclusives. I sold my Wii U to my brother-in-law and I've found PS4, PC and X1 more than meet my needs - despite occassionally missing Mario Kart and Splatoon. I'm even considering losing xbox in the long term seeing as I can play their games and use their controller on PC. Nintendo is going to have to blow my socks to get me back to buying their consoles again. Either that or it's going to have to be dirt cheap.

Pretty much exactly this. I could see this being really popular for families though if the battery life is good. I also like the idea of the cartridges (with a couple assumptions).
1. No moving parts, hopefully better battery life than a disk.
2. Hopefully it's just a fast SD card essentially. Then if the game doesn't have updates you wouldn't really need to install it like you do with XBONE or PS4 games.

I think this will be another generation of Nintendo trying to go it alone without decent 3rd party support. I don't think it is possible for this thing to have enough power to not make porting to it more work than is worth it. Perhaps mobile games will be easy enough to port, and there are a lot of people out there playing mobile games so who knows, but I'm not really in that market I guess.

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 01:56 AM

Regarding price, it may technically (in a way,) provide more value than just a console, because it's both a console & a portable gaming system. However, Nintendo really needs to keep in mind that the customer base of people looking to buy BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY is very small compared to the number of people who ONLY want a console or ONLY want a portable system. Especially since a lot of people will probably only see it as a portable game device that can also be seen on a TV, not as a mobile device and also a console.

If Nintendo prices it based on its full possible provided value, it's already lost.  There just aren't enough people in that demographic. I bet that's a really hard pill for them to swallow, especially since they traditionally don't sell consoles at a loss like the others do.

With that said, good luck Nintendo. The more, the merrier. Try to give MS & Sony a run for their money & show them how to sell games that don't need 1GB-day-1 patches to finish the game.
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Posted 29 October 2016 - 02:35 AM

cracked had a good article about the future failure of the Switch....   http://www.cracked.c...erstand-humans/

I do agree that the commercial is funny in where people join around to play on a tiny screen.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 08:01 PM

Oh look, another Nintendo launch!

At this point, I can say that I will likely be buying one. I'm a huge Nintendo fanboy, so no shock there. I just wonder outside of other Nintendo fans like myself, who else is the target market?

I think it will do okay. Zelda as a launch title with all of the other Nintendo properties will easily ensure that the system sells 10+ million units over the first year... I just wonder what will happen if/when they make an exclusive Pokemon game for the system.
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Posted 20 December 2016 - 10:09 PM

View PostBrandino, on 29 October 2016 - 02:35 AM, said:

cracked had a good article about the future failure of the Switch....   http://www.cracked.c...erstand-humans/

I do agree that the commercial is funny in where people join around to play on a tiny screen.

The article makes some interesting points. Personally I don't see the point of the system. If you want to game on the go, use a phone or dedicated portable gaming device. If you want to game at home, use a console. To me those two activities are very distinct, separate things that offer very different experiences. It's too overpowered for a portable and that small screen means any finer details in the visuals will be lost. It's not as powerful as a dedicated console so cross-platform games will look visibly worse with it. Like the article says, it's basically a tablet with some controllers slapped on it.

In the end, this will be like every other Nintendo console since the Gamecube: good sales out of the gate (but nowhere near as good as the Wii), quick drop-off in sales once the fanboys have gotten theirs; abandonment by the few worthwhile third party developers once sales tank; a trickle of first party titles to keep the diehards in the fold until the cycle starts all over again (or until Nintendo gets wise and decides to focus on software only). Also, exclusive IPs like Mario and Pokemon won't be as effective system sellers if those same IP's are available on phones.

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 10:54 PM

I read online that the system (GPU) runs 60% slower when it's off the dock in order to keep the system cool.   That scares me a lot!
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Posted 14 January 2017 - 07:14 PM

So the info is now out....  yikes those price points are to high for me.
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Posted 14 January 2017 - 08:55 PM

In my opinion, the presentation was was a abysmal failure. The console is pretty much a Nividia Shield level console (ie: less powerful than original PS4 or Xbox One) yet they're asking $300 for it and it doesn't appear to even come with a pack-in game. I thought they were finally getting away from the waggle gimmicks and what do they show but another title full of waggles.

It has only one (maybe two) worthwhile games at launch and that's only if you like Nintendo's IP's (there are a lot of us that don't).

The only third party titles announced were FIFA by EA and Skyrim. So we have a soccer game that will probably look and play better on every other platform and a 5 year old game that everyone has already played (the system isn't even powerful enough to run the new remastered version). And this time the number of games at launch is also dismally small.

The problem Nintendo has had for at least the last 10 years is that the only people interested in their consoles have been die-hard Nintendo fans. It's a given that they will buy the Switch when it is released no matter the price. But for the rest of us there is absolutely nothing here at all.

Nintendo has already failed in the home console market; something tells me they're well on the way to burying their portable market as well.

Easy pass for me.

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Posted 14 January 2017 - 09:47 PM

Initially when they first revealed it, I thought that the concept was cool, and that the casuals will catch on. After this presentation, I am not sure anymore. I don't think the 3rd party support will be strong outside of the initial 1 or 2 years. You can argue that the wii u actually had more 3rd party titles at launch! It only has 32 GB storage. The processor is weak even by mobile standards (ARM cortex A-57 cores when android phones out now have ARM cortex-A72 cores or equivalent), the pay-to-play online might hurt them as they are not in the same position as MS/Sony, and they should be doing the opposite and not following them to be different.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 02:14 AM

After letting the Switch news sit with me for a while and reading more info about it.   I do think it was a completely poor presentation and a terrible idea on how they are launching it.  

The complete lack of games is alarming,   they have Zelda,  a lot of ports and then Mario at X-mas.

The pay to play online where you only keep that SNES/NES game for that month sucks.   Apparently it's not clear but their is a chance that you would have to use your cell phone and an app for online voice chat?  If that's true then Nintendo needs to stop doing hardware ASAP.

I did like one article I read online where they said they should of just released the switch without the tv accessory and put the focus on a powerful portable gaming device.  Sell the TV hook up separately.

I have extreme doubts on this machine...  I have a feeling that it might be another Wii-U.
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:11 PM

Don't forget the 32gb of onboard storage; this is a ridiculously small amount in this day and age. I've also read several articles about developers literally laughing when asked if their games would be ported to Switch, citing the lack of horsepower and storage as reasons very few modern-gen games could run on the system. Nintendo will be going it alone again and they clearly haven't learned from their past mistakes.

Between the base $300 asking price for a bare bones console with no pack in, another $50-60 for a game, probably $20 or more for additional storage, even more cash for the preferred controller for playing off the TV, the real price of entry is closer to $400 and that doesn't even include the cost of accessing their online services.

I've also read about that ridiculous decision to use a phone app for core online services like chat and matchmaking.

They really should quit the hardware game and focus on software.

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Posted 22 January 2017 - 02:07 PM

Agree with B and Tony. Looks like Wii U 2.0 to me.

The base system in Australia is priced at $470 AUD without a game. Switch games such as Zelda and Mario are being advertised in the vicinity of $90-$100. Wii U games topped at $90 and were typically $60-$80. 3DS games topped at $60 AUD. They're pricing themselves out of both the handheld and console markets IMO.

Most people have smart phones/tablets already and X1S and PS4 can be had from $350-$400 AUD with pack in games. Why would anyone other than a hardcore Nintendo fan bother with this thing?

That being said when the prices start coming down, it could do pretty well if it's seen as the successor to the DS.

Either way, 1st Ninty console I'll be passing on at launch me thinks.

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 12:57 AM

http://ca.ign.com/ar...o-switch-review

This is not looking good at all for Nintendo...  

Controller issues,  bad graphics,  framerate issues on tv mode....  

Maybe next time around they will focus on making a quality home console and a quality portable rather then melting the two together..
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Posted 02 March 2017 - 07:54 PM

Everything I've read basically says that the system works best in handheld mode, even though it is way too bulky to be truly considered portable. When connected to a TV, the system's limitations quickly become obvious as even Legend of Zelda, their flagship title at launch, has severe framerate dips and the mediocre textures become quite obvious. So you have a portable that is really too big to be a practical portable and a console that is woefully underpowered so any ports are pretty much guaranteed to be inferior.




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